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Steven von Christierson
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Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 12:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I am puzzled by the void under the floorboard where the companionway ladder is mounted. That floorboard appears to be nailed in and I've not figured out how to get under it, primarily for cleaning. I suspect some growth from a diesel leak some years ago as I get much dark "stuff" into the bilge with all the rain we've had this year. I'd like to throughly clean it out, but just cannot figure out how to get the deck out. Anyone tackle this? (I redid the floorboards two winters ago, and then opted to do that floorboard in place because I just couldn't see how to get it out.) Also, I did not notice this addressed anywhere in the S2 91 website, but if it is there, please redirect me.
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Eric Yaremko
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Posted on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 11:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Exterior woodwork,
I have never been happy with teak treatments for the exterior on boats. No matter what I tried it, still looked awful within 6 months. On the handrails and door-boards I tried something different. I cleaned it with Teak-Ka, sanded it lightly, painted it with 2 coats of West Epoxy (wet-sanded in between and washed). I applied 3 coats of Interlux Interthane Plus clear 2 part polyurethane, wet sanding and washing in between coats. The finish is still clear and high gloss
now 14 months later, and should stay that way for about 5 years. It's a project to do but it does stay nice.
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Russ Fender
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Posted on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 06:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Gary,

You mentioned using steel wool to clean your wood. This is a no-no! Bronze OK, Stainless Steel OK. Regular steel wool will leave little particles that will rust over time.
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Gary Hendrickson
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Posted on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 12:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The interior wood in my boat around the companionway, that gets more exposure to sun and weather, is not as "bright" and warm in appearance as it is further inside. So I'm going to try to refinish it this Spring. But I don't know how you're really supposed to do this.

My initial approach will be to take the parts off, clean them with oil soap and 3M pads, or steel or bronze wool, and sand if needed, then re-finsh with a Watco oil. In this area I think I'll use one of their oils that's intended for exterior use like the guardsman oil was. The nav table appears to have a finer, harder finish, so I'll burnish it by wetsanding using 400 or 600 grit sandpaper with the oil.

A friend told me not to use teak cleaner on the interior wood. I'd sure welcome tips from those of you who have done this and are pros at it.
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Gary Hendrickson
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Posted on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 12:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Guardsman Finishing Oil that S2 used has recently been discontinued. The remaining Guardsman products are now marketed by Lille Industries.

Their division chemist in Highpoint North Carolina looked up the composition of this product in their archives for me recently. It is described in their documentation as a modified tung oil sealer. Its composition included tung oil & mineral spirits, and driers including zirconium, magnesium and cobalt. He stated that a similar wood finish should be readily found on the shelves of a Lowe's or Home Depot.

The oil that has been used by my boat's previous owner, and by myself, on the interior wood, with good results, is Watco Danish Oil Finish. It is labeled "Natural" and "for interior use only." Each Spring my wife and I wash the interior wood surfaces with Murphy's Oil Soap, let dry, then wipe down with a rag saturated with this oil.

I am told that Watco is a good quality brand of wood finishing products, made by Watco-Dennis Corp. in Santa Monica Ca. Their product line includes Marine Wood Finish, Marine Teakwood Finish, Teak Oil Finish, and Satin Oil.
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Russ Fender (Admin)
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Posted on Wednesday, March 27, 2002 - 09:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Woodwork

The finish we used on teak woodwork was called Guardsman Finishing Oil (product # 14-30-50). We used this product both on the interior and exterior teak wood work. Guardsman Finishing Oil is still available from Guardsman Chemicals. You can contact their headquarters and find out where you may purchase this product locally. Their address is 1350 Steele S.W. Grand Rapids, Michigan 49507; or phone 616) 452-5181. S2 Yachts is no longer using this product as the amount of teak we are presently using in our power boats is considerably less than in days gone by. The finish we used on interior teak & holly flooring was just a satin finish polyurethane varnish, available at any paint store, paint department, etc.
Keep in mind the above products are what we used originally, and we have no idea what may have been used on your boat since.

The teak handrails on the cabin top of many S2 models were not 'pre-bent' or cut on a curve. These handrails were cut to their respective trapezoidal profile on a table saw. Once they were bolted at one end, they were then bent in place and progressively drilled and fastened from one end to the other. This operation may take 2-3 people. We are no longer able to produce the cabin-top handrails for any of our sailboats. We can not, nor could we ever, match your boat's wood grain by referring your hull number. Our thanks to the bozo that started that rumor, Mr. Fishguts we presume. We are the most expensive possible source for teak lumber. You can order teak through your local lumber yard, or boat yard.

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