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Freddie Narvaez

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Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2000 - 05:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

While I prepare my boat for Michigan Lake I would like to know what works best for 9.1 association members. Here in Dallas is pretty warm all year round to say the least and the boat stays in the water all the time. What works overthere?

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Michael Greenwald

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Posted on Sunday, March 19, 2000 - 01:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Freddie,

On Slingshot, we use VC Tar as an undercoat and VC17m as an antifouling coating. It's not the best solution for racing since it produces a bottom that is not very slick and not very resistant to the algae that seems to be getting worse as Lake Michigan gets shallower and warmer.

We are exploring other solutions including epoxy, VC Offshore and the like. Whatever we use, regular cleaning is necessary for speed.
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Lance Staughton

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Posted on Monday, March 20, 2000 - 02:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm glad this discussion is going on as I'm having my bottom painted in a couple of weeks. I was pretty convinced I was going to use VC Offshore as I intend to race and cruise it in salt water this summer for several months (home port is fresh water) and maybe leave the boat permantly in salt water. This made me rule out VC17. I live quite a ways from any convienent haulouts so I don't really want to repaint every spring. Then the yard (which builds race boats) recommended Petit Trinidad (modified epoxy-sprayed on). I told him I was the proverbial racer/cruiser and he thought the VC Offshore wasn't all that fast especially compared to VC17. And then I read in Practical Sailor that Petit Trinidad was the top rated paint ( at least in the fouling department. Now I'm unsure but the discussions seem to be all about VC. Has anybody used the Petit Trinidad???

Lance
Symbiosis
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Freddie Narvaez

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Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2000 - 07:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OK.
My guy here in Dallas recommends Ultrakote by Interlux. (I want to do the bottom before I move the boat to Chicago during April.) This guy says it will last several seasons. I explained my need for speed. He argues the loss in speed is very small. We all know a tenth of a knot makes a world of difference.

What if I just epoxy the bottom and clean it regularly?

"My guy in Dallas" says Trinidad is hard to apply and requires a very good shop to do it. Huhh?
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Glen

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Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2000 - 12:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My boat is in Puget Sound year round. I rolled on UltraKote last fall. You can burnish (polish) UltraKote (and probably Trinidad too) to a very smooth finish using sandpaper and burlap. Start with a prepped (cleaned dried, sanded, SMOOTH) bottom and roll on a few coats (spraying is better but nasty.) Find the rollers that give you the smoothest finish to begin with (we found the cheaper the roller the better the finish - can't explain that one) as this will mean less burnishing is required. We went with UltraKote because that was used previously on our boat and it holds up to scrubbing well. The newest version has a biocide now too. Don't know why Trinidad would be hard to apply - I've never used it.
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Freddie Narvaez

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Posted on Friday, April 14, 2000 - 06:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I am getting Ultrakote. Sanding to a nice smooth finish, and eventually reaching 4 coats. I have been told that this should take me through a couple of seasons. We'll see.

I will be mooring at Burhanm Harbor. Should get the boat delivered by end of April and in the water a couple of weeks later. I am glad we are talking about mast painting too. Mine is very, very, very, scratched. But for $2 grants, I rather sail with it as it is.

See you soon 9.1 people!!

Freddie Narvaez
"ATREVIDA" Hull #12

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